Point-Counterpoint style, Dgrin's Harry Behret
and Andy Williams
take off the gloves. Keep coming back - updates 2-3x per week.
Harry, You Ignorant Slut!
Canon is just better, period. I'll start with detail, and resolution, that's unmatched by anything in Nikon's arsenal, body or
Just look at the exposure, color, and detail in this shot. Taken with Canon's flagship, the 1Ds Mark II. Click here to see a 100% crop
. Oh I forgot to tell you, this was taken with Canon's lowly
85 f/1.8 EF lens, nothing fancy.
Trevor sez: "Bring it on, Old Man!"
Master Williams your immature name calling will get you no place
. I won't be sucked into a name calling contest with a half-wit.
Canon is better? Balderdash!!!!
To quote Bjorn Rorslett
, "The DX format has shown real muscle with the introduction of the D2X, transcending the quality expectation for this tiny format. Pitched against the reigning DSLR champion, Canon 1 DS Mk.II, D2X comes out on top with better performance in nearly all aspects."
Since my D2X won't arrive until tomorrow I can only respond with a picture taken with my humble 4.1 megapixel D2h and the Nikon VR 80-400 F/4.5-5.6 D zoom lens.
Harry, Harry, Harry! When will you ever learn?
Canon is cream of the crop when it comes to buttery-smooth bokeh, and razor sharp features. The versatility of the Canon system and lenses is just light years ahead of anything Nikon. The camera for this shot? A Canon 10D, with the much maligned but very serviceable 70-300 DO lens aboard.
Oh and shooting Nikon makes me look funny
Oh, the ignorance of the young!
Andy, Canon pictures are like my slippers. They are cuddly, very soft, and they smell. If you want glass that produces sharp pictures with excellent color & contrast Nikon is it. This shot was taken with my D2H and the much maligned 80-400 lens.
And Andy, you never needed Nikon to look silly
This guy doesn't smell, and he's sure not soft! Nikonians love to talk about the speed of the D2X - well, Canon has the 1D Mark IIn, fastest DSLR on the planet last time I checked. This shot? Oh, sorry - it was taken with the 3fps Canon 5D - enjoy it in all of it's full-frame glory, old man!
Oh, Andy not a surfing shot to demonstrate speed.
A 10 year old with an instamatic can get a surfing shot. If you want to capture action that you can't see with the eye you need a fast camera like the 8fps for up to 40 captures D2H. Its fast frame rate and near instantaneous focusing allows you to catch the real action. This shot of snowy egret doing the "Reznick Flip" (you don't see it with your eyes when it happens) was done with the Nikon 300mm F/4 lens and the Nikon 1.4 TC.
Maybe Not Important To YOU
, Harry, because I know as an older, retired gent you probably get to bed early, and there are no subways in Florida. But, for many of us, we like to shoot in the dark. Without flash. Harry, you're old enough to remember the days of Tri-X and pushing ASA 1600 film to 3200, aren't you? Of course you are. Of the many Canon virtues, is the absolutely un-matched high ISO performance.
I guess I should clarify for you, since to a Nikonian, shooting at "high ISO" means ISO 400 :) Well, I'm talking 1600, 3200! Canon's imaging processor is so good, that well exposed shots at ISO 3200 look amazingly good. Here's one, taken in the NYC subway. Enjoy it, Harry. And if you ever need to shoot underground, or in the dark, I'll be happy to let you borrow my gear. Taken with a Canon 5D, 24-105L aboard, @98mm. 100% crops here
This is the part I love High ISO shooting. Every Canonite loves to run around and shoot as high ISOs usually when they aren't needed. One of the reasons that Canonites shoot in those high ISOs is because Canon has yet to come up with decent flash system. So you poor old Canon shooters shoot at ISO 6400 with less color range, less sharpness, less contrast and then shout "huzzah there's no noise".
As for night shooting here's a night shot of my little old swimming hole down in Florida. The shot was taken with my aged and obsolete D100 and the Nikon 18-35mm 3.5 - 4.5 D lens.The illumination was supplied by the Nikon SB-80DX Speedlight.
We Canon Shooters
can have our cake, and eat it, too. Let me tell you why high ISO is so important, my Nikonian friend. Sometimes, you can't use your flash. Sometimes, you don't want to carry it. Sometimes, you're too far away for it to matter. Being able to shoot at high ISOs and to produce clean prints at large size, that's powerful - and a huge point in Canon's favor. OK, OK.. I realize my last shot was a bit unfair - I mean, come on, I laid ISO 3200 on you, something that Nikon could never do! So I'll go easier on you this time. I have a small gallery
of ISO 1600 shots - all available light, no flash. With 100% crops so you can see the quality of the noise - which, according to Paul Bowen
, one of Canon's Explorers of Light
, is "so good I freely shoot at ISO 1600 and above with my Canon's when the situation warrants."
So this shot? It's taken from 18 rows back in a dark NYC Broadway theater. Shot at ISO 1600 with Canon 5D, and the very affordable, Canon 85mm f/1.8, @ f/1.8. You be the judge. Harry, I'd love to see some examples of what Nikon looks like at ISO 1600. I'll enjoy some plum cake
while I wait for you to find them!
Andy, Andy, Andy If you listen to Canon shooters you would think that you can't shoot pictures unless you are at ISO 3200. Somehow in my last 35 years of shooting I have never needed that. Every time I take a workshop with a pro they tell me to shoot at the lowest ISO possible. Why? Because you get better shots with low ISOs. I will grant you that Canon's have less noise at higher ISOs but beyond that they trail Nikon in every category.
I would love to show you a high ISO shot but I have never needed it. The last time I tried to take a camera into a Broadway show they insisted that I check it at the door. Shooting wildlife in Florida (that's what I do you know) has never called for ISO 82000 just an excellent responsive camera with superior focusing, unmatched color rendition, outstanding contrast, superb white balance, and unsurpassed detail.
Shooting broadways shows are nice (when they let you) but I'll save my $ and spend some time with this guy, shot My obsolete D100 and 300 F4 lens with the Nikon 1.4 TC captured him. It wasn't as sophisticated as the Great White Way but is sure as hell was more of a thrill.